Ben Affleck Talks 'Dumbest' Thing He's Ever Seen Matt Damon Do (Video)

“I swear to God, this is a true story,” the ‘Way Back’ actor tells Kimmel

Ben Affleck told the hilarious story of the time Matt Damon, his fellow Bostonian and friend of nearly 40 years, gave him a little word of advice while they were auditioning for the high school play together 30 years ago on a visit to “Jimmy Kimmel Live!” Tuesday.

“You know, he’s a good guy in my opinion, but there is a moment that stands out,” Affleck said in response to Kimmel’s question about the “dumbest thing” he’d ever seen his “Good Will Hunting” co-star do in the time they’ve known each other, which is a long time considering they met when Affleck was eight and Damon was 10.

“We lived down the street from each other and we’d see each other at the park, and he was one of the bigger kids,” Affleck said. “But then I got this job on TV. A PBS cheesy education show for kids, which I thought was kind of lame, but it was enough to make Matt boil with envy. Just burn with rage.”

The “Way Back” actor said the words “burn with rage” in a startlingly deep voice, which he followed with a caricature of his eight-year-old self’s pipsqueak voice: “I was like, ‘I just came from set!’”

“He wanted to be an actor. He took it very seriously. And then when we got to high school — we went to public high school in Cambridge — I went out for the fall play. I saw Matt there, and he kind of eyed me. I was a freshman, I was probably six inches smaller than him, cause he was 2 inches taller than he is now,” he joked.

“I swear to God, this is a true story. He says ‘Let me give you a little advice.’ He says, ‘This isn’t TV, where you get by on your looks and your haircut. This is about talent. This is the theater.’ Turned around and walked away. Stone cold. Like he was the Lawrence Olivier of the Cambridge Rindge and Latin public high school drama program,” Affleck said.

So then, Kimmel had to ask — how many plays has Damon done since making that proclamation all those years ago?

“It’s been 30 years?” Affleck asked. “One play.”

Watch the video above.

17 'Breaking Bad' Characters We've Already Spotted in 'Better Call Saul' (Photos)

  • “Better Call Saul” inhabits the same sad Albuquerque underground as “Breaking Bad,” so it’s natural that characters in the AMC shows would overlap. Ready to see how? (Spoiler warning: This gallery contains lots of details about both shows.)  

  • Jimmy McGill/Saul Goodman (Bob Odenkirk)  
    He’s the main character in the new series, so of course we need to include Slippin’ Jimmy. Goodman appeared in 43 of 62 “Breaking Bad” episodes as Walt and Jesse’s criminal lawyer, with an emphasis on “criminal.” This season, Jimmy finally starts to practice law as Saul Goodman, complete with an upgraded wardrobe.

    In flash-forwards, we see that Jimmy/Saul lives long enough to become a paranoid, balding Cinnabon worker. Free icing? Could be worse.  


  • Don Hector Salamanca (Mark Margolis)
    He walks! Hector — the uncle of Tuco Salamanca — had a wheelchair in “Breaking Bad.” But the old man who was constantly ringing his bell to communicate was a real crimelord in his younger, more virile days, which “Better Call Saul” shows.  

    In “Breaking Bad,” Hector takes out Gustavo Fring (pictured) with a crazy suicide bomb, avenging the deaths of his OTHER nephews. We’ll get to those guys soon.  


  • Ken (Kyle Bornheimer)
    Here’s one of those deep pulls that we alluded to earlier. In “Breaking Bad,” obnoxious Ken inadvertently helped Walter White break bad, and his mode of transportation suffered the consequences.  

    First, Ken stole Walt’s parking space at a bank, while bragging on his bluetooth. Later, the loudmouth continued his boastful, irritating behavior. So Walt blew up his car, as chemists do.

    In Season 2 of “Saul,” Jimmy and Kim trick Ken into buying them a ton of expensive tequila shots at a swanky bar. The stock broker with “KEN WINS” on his BMW license plates tends to lose a lot in this universe.  


  • Gustavo Fring (Giancarlo Esposito)  
    After being teased at the end of Season 2, The Chicken Man and “Breaking Bad’s” biggest adversary shows up in the second episode of season 3. After a humorous scene where he’s cleaning up right next Jimmy eating at Los Pollos Hermanos (Saul and Gus never actually met each other in “Breaking Bad”), we see Fring is not yet the drug kingpin he is in “Breaking Bad.” But throughout the first four seasons, we see how Mike will eventually become Gus’ fixer and get a lot more on the rivalry between Fring and the Salamancas (as fans of both shows know, it doesn’t end well for either).  

    We also see Fring lay his eyes for the first time on the industrial laundromat that will be known to “Breaking Bad” fans as the Super Lab where Walt and Jesse cook for him.  

  • Tuco Salamanca (Raymond Cruz)  
    Tuco’s surprise appearance in Season 1 of “Better Call Saul” set the tone for even more exciting, unspoiled villainous returns. And then legs got broken, badly, because Tuco is a complete madmen.  

    Currently, Tuco is doing prison time, thanks to Mike. But he’ll be out soon enough …  

    In “Breaking Bad,” the ruthless Tuco had worked his way all the way up to drug kingpin level. He, Walt and Jesse had some rough and tumble meetings before Tuco himself met his demise with a Hank Shrader bullet through the brain.  


  • Mike Ehrmantraut (Jonathan Banks)  
    OK, OK, we know — another obvious one. But you can’t make this an all-encompassing list sans Mike.  

    Mike and Jimmy/Saul work together in both series, though their relationship remains rocky at best. Early on in “Better Call Saul,” the two meet at a local courthouse, where Jimmy is a public defender and Mike works the parking lot.  


  • Leonel Salamanca (Daniel Moncada)  
    One of the killer “cousins,” who are really twin brothers. (They’re cousins of Tuco’s, and nephews of Hector’s.)  

    The boys are dangerous, bloody, all-business hitman for the Juarez drug cartel. They’re sharp dressers and have ever sharper axes. Both brothers get snuffed out as a result of a classic Hank firefight during “Breaking Bad,” though this one lives long enough for one last-gasp badass hospital moment.  


  • Marco Salamanca (Luis Moncada)  
    Click back to brother Leonel’s slide — don’t they look similar?  

    One difference: How they died. Marco got the top of his head blown off by Hank in that classic parking lot fight scene. Gross, but fully earned.  


  • Domingo “Krazy-8” Molina (Max Arciniega)  
    A more grown-up Krazy-8 was actually the first person Walter killed in “Breaking Bad,” though he hemmed and hawed over it for a while, almost freeing his violent prisoner.  

    In “Saul,” Molina comes across quite convincingly as a younger, more innocent version of himself, still new to the drug game and working at his dad’s store. In a half-decade or so, he’ll be choked to death with a bicycle lock in Jesse’s aunt’s basement. He’s also Jimmy/Saul’s first step into becoming the criminal underworld’s go-to attorney.


  • Lawson (Jim Beaver)  
    Everyone’s favorite weapons dealer sells Walt the gun he uses to mow down a whole lotta neo-Nazis. He also turned up on “Better Call Saul” to offer several rifles to Mike… though, to Lawson’s surprise, Mike took a pass.  

  • Lydia Rodarte-Quayle (Laura Fraser)
    We all know how she takes her tea by now, which would ultimately be Lydia’s demise.   

    During the “Breaking Bad” days, Lydia tried to get Mike to kill a laundry list of Gus Fring’s associates. When he refuses, she tries to have Mike killed. Bad move.  

    Lydia and Mike first meet in “Better Call Saul,” when Gus sets him up with a paycheck at her Madrigal Electromotive. They don’t get off to a great start.  


  • Huell Babineaux (Lavell Crawford)  
    A very svelte-looking Huell (Crawford lost 130 pounds since the end of “Breaking Bad”) pops up in the fifth episode of season 3, “Chicanery,” inadvertently bumping into Chuck during a recess during Jimmy’s bar hearing. In a gut-punching reveal, we find out that Jimmy hired Huell to plant a fully-charged battery on Chuck, which reveals his illness to be in his head and helps Jimmy avoid getting barred forever for practicing law.  

    Hey wait a minute, didn’t we see Huell do that move before…?  

  • Don Eladio Vuente (Steven Bauer)  
    “The Winking Greek” was the boss of the Juarez Cartel — that is, until he took a shot of Gus Fring’s Zafiro Añejo tequila during the “Breaking Bad” days.  

    Back during the “Better Call Saul” timeline, Eladio was a total jerk to Hector, who years later was used as a prop to take out Fring.  


  • Francesca Liddy (Tina Parker)  
    Before she was Saul Goodman’s personal secretary, Francesca served as the receptionist for Wexler McGill. She unfortunately gets laid off when Jimmy and Kim decide to sublet the office during Jimmy’s enforced year-long sabbatical from legal work. Jimmy promises to hire her back when he can practice law again, and we all know how that turns out.  

  • Gale Boetticher (David Costabile)  
    In the third episode of Season 4, Gus pays a visit to Gale at his chemistry lab on the University of New Mexico campus (with the scene evoking memories of another chemistry teacher), which ends with Gale urging for Gus to allow him to produce higher-grade meth in his lab. Gus declines, saying Gale is meant for “better things.”  

    We’ll find out in “Breaking Bad” that those “better things” aren’t really all that better.  

  • Hank Schrader (Dean Norris)
    As Jimmy/Saul gets further into bed with the criminal underworld, we figure it was only a matter of time he crossed paths with Albuquerque’s most famous DEA agent.

    Norris is certainly the most prominent “Breaking Bad” alum to re-appear on the AMC prequel, having starred in 60 of the show’s 62 episodes.

  • Steve Gomez (Steven Michael Quezada)
    What, you thought Hank would show up without his trusted partner? 

  • Honestly? We’re most worried about people who turn up on “Better Call Saul” but not “Breaking Bad.” Does that mean they went straight and avoided grim “Breaking Bad” fates? Or that they didn’t survive “Better Call Saul”? Kim Wexler, let us know you’re okay.  

A few “Better Call Saul” faces are familiar, but others are very deep pulls

“Better Call Saul” inhabits the same sad Albuquerque underground as “Breaking Bad,” so it’s natural that characters in the AMC shows would overlap. Ready to see how? (Spoiler warning: This gallery contains lots of details about both shows.)  

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